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01 Oct 2018 09:25 #542495 by Ruth

Want some news and then updates, or have you had enough babies already this spring?

My favourite grey heifer is lying flat out, wondering what the hell is going on. I tried to explain. She just looked dolefully at me.

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01 Oct 2018 09:45 #542496 by Kilmoon

Yippee....eyelash competition between yours and Sues!

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01 Oct 2018 09:54 #542498 by Ruth

Oh. I think I forgot to check the eyelash EBVs on this season's bulls! Bugger.

Watching my little heifer brings to mind the question often asked: how long is labour, when do you intervene?
If I hadn't looked out the window at 7.55am when she was stamping her hind legs and had her tail out, I'd not have known she's in labour now where she's sitting.
I'm sure she is in labour, from her general behaviour, but I think she really is only just starting and the foot stamping was just early contractions. That she's sitting as StikkiBeek described hers, doesn't worry me yet. I checked and there is only thick mucous at her vulva.

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01 Oct 2018 09:57 #542499 by Sue

Regular progress updates please!
I'll be checking my photo store for eye lashes!


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01 Oct 2018 10:05 #542500 by Ruth

We have a "streamer" which looks solid enough to be the membrane of a burst bag I didn't see as she just stood up. I was busy delivering coffees to some wood turners. Heifer is up the other end of the paddock, straight out the back door with binoculars.

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01 Oct 2018 10:13 #542502 by Sue

Excellent progress, especially for a heifer!


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01 Oct 2018 10:17 #542504 by Ruth

The sire is SUMMITCREST FOCUS 2U66 . I had a few of them last year to cows and they were mostly pretty small.

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01 Oct 2018 10:29 #542505 by Sue

How have they grown?


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01 Oct 2018 10:33 #542506 by Sue

Not a bad set of figures, just looked him up, no wonder you chose him for heifers!


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01 Oct 2018 10:39 #542507 by LongRidge

The calves that my current bull is making are as large as with any previous bull that we have had, but they are being born very easily. They slide out about 10 to 15 minutes after the tail lifting, with the couple that we have been quick enough to view the event. Hence my belief that 2 hours wait before helping is quite enough.

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01 Oct 2018 10:58 #542508 by Ruth

Sue wrote: How have they grown?

263kg 200 days. They're looking pretty good now as yearlings.

The streamer thing was just that very thick mucous. She's taking this as she does everything else, lazily. She got up to eat some grass in a new break, then sat down when some contractions came on and she had been lifting her hind legs about a bit. Now she has wandered up to the end of the paddock and is just standing. I have cancelled an afternoon appointment.

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01 Oct 2018 11:33 #542511 by Ruth

Just spotted a bit of pushing. Something might happen soon! Or not. Either way I'll just be worried. It's what I do during calving.

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01 Oct 2018 11:46 #542512 by Sue

I'm with you there!


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01 Oct 2018 15:10 #542519 by flaxcottage

I agree most people have that nervous excitment when their pets give birth. I have one left to go. Shes a 5 yr old MG cross that i brought in. Shes not far away within the next few days im picking. Good luck Ruth.

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01 Oct 2018 15:37 #542521 by Ruth

At about noon I thought, perhaps I'd better investigate. I inserted a hand out in the paddock but she wasn't having enuogh of that. Then I thought perhaps I'd have lunch and then take her in to the yards. 1pm, still nothing, so we walked in. Calf was almost upside-down, head at 8 o'clock, feet up at 2 o'clock, no way they were going to engage appropriately. I tried pulling the calf up, figured there is a trick I don't know, phoned the vet. Vet couldn't come for two hours. Thought I'd better have another go. Got the calf up into the pelvis - I suspect that once it's pulled up a bit a contraction rights it. Decided to let her out to carry on, since the feet and nose were all just there and this is her first. 2.40 I helped a bit to get it out, since she might be a bit tired by now. Bull calf, nice and lively, mother doing everything she should so far although not quite allowing suckling when I left her. I'll go check again after a cuppa.

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01 Oct 2018 17:11 #542523 by Sue

Well done, good call, great outcome!
Have you got calving chains and handles?


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01 Oct 2018 18:52 #542524 by Ruth

Yes but didn't use them this time. The calf was a nice size, just the wrong way up.

She's been feeding it well, all looking good. Just have to get her back from over at the yards without zonking the calf who's currently asleep.

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01 Oct 2018 19:30 #542525 by Stikkibeek

Glad you had a successful outcome Ruth.
My heifer seems to be calm with her clip-ons, but early days yet.


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01 Oct 2018 21:43 #542526 by LongRidge

I was taught by a vet that was very experienced is calving cows that for a calf coming the correct way around, to pull downwards, and to pull one shoulder slightly ahead of the other. Lots and lots and lots of vet lube is also very helpful. I have not yet had one upside down, but would suppose that pulling upwards would be better.
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01 Oct 2018 22:02 #542527 by Ruth

It wasn't upside-down by the time it came out or it wouldn't have got out. I turned it inside so she could birth it normally.

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01 Oct 2018 22:10 #542528 by Ruth

Hot off the press: Eva, my annual calving date competition cow, has just delivered an unexpectedly small heifer, unexpectedly early. I'm off out to make sure there isn't someone else being born... Probably not. But I always think there will be.

In the dark paddock earlier, I heard a weird noise, then repeated several times: the incredibly loud slurping of a little calf feeding from his little grey mother. They're doing beautifully so far.

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02 Oct 2018 10:19 #542532 by Sue

Good news!
How are the two new arrivals this morning-but wait-are there more?


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02 Oct 2018 10:19 #542533 by kate

Keep us up to date with lots of photos B)


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02 Oct 2018 10:42 #542535 by Ruth

They both seem fine. Eva's daughter kept trying to suck my fingers but Eva's udder looks like she has fed. I'll watch when she next wakes up and see what happens - and go and see if there's yellow shit.
Otherwise they just continually worry me as they head for the drain, which is the only place there's lovely long grass to hide in.

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04 Oct 2018 12:02 #542567 by viki

glad you are off to a good start... No doubt someone will be calving today in this lovely rain ..

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04 Oct 2018 12:43 #542568 by Ruth

So far not. Grey heifer is big sister to your (Viki) grey yearling heifer.

Little black heifer seems a bit stupid. I have been helping her find rear teats on her mothers not-so-good 9yo udder, with huge hard rear quarters and bugger all in the front. Calf kept bunting the front and her mother started kicking her away. That would not be a good pattern to form.

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04 Oct 2018 12:51 #542571 by viki

darn, hopefully they'll both get it soon. The grey yearlings looking great even with no grass all winter, thank goodness we did that hay

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04 Oct 2018 12:52 #542572 by Ruth

Ours really enjoyed your hay too! Thank you!

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06 Oct 2018 20:09 #542650 by Ruth



How about these eyelashes? This is Harriet, since her dad is Harry and she's the first of his calves we've had. She's very sweet.

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07 Oct 2018 08:21 #542660 by Kilmoon

She is just too cute for words (we're not lambing this year, so I'm having to get my baby fix via photos).

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07 Oct 2018 09:41 #542663 by Sue

Your eye lashes always look more spectacular with loads of mascara to thicken them up! ;-)


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07 Oct 2018 09:56 #542665 by Ruth

I hope you're not suggesting calf tampering!

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07 Oct 2018 10:08 #542667 by Sue

Of course not!!!!!!

Yours are born with natural mascara- no competetion with my silvers where you can barely see their eye lashes!!



No more calves imminent?


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07 Oct 2018 11:32 #542672 by Ruth

Only as per the list I put on the latest website page. I'm watching out the window regularly. There's one out of sight I'll go and check again in a while. Not in labour yet, as far as I know.

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07 Oct 2018 20:23 #542682 by Ruth

Number 4, to 10yo 613. She has had a 'rumbling' case of mastitis since weaning, so it'll be interesting to watch what her udder does this time. Hopefully it will resolve without problems. It's not a nice udder but she raises fabulous calves. I'd have liked a heifer this time from this mating but one is always pleased with a live, healthy calf.
There's a 2yo daughter in the herd who was too silly last year for mating but I'll reassess her this season.

At 6pm I found 613 standing alone, stamping a hind leg. 7pm there were two feet and she delivered the calf at 7.20pm. That last part of the visible labour always looks the worst but is generally the quickest if all is going well.

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08 Oct 2018 09:05 #542685 by Sue

Calf #4, who have I missed?
First was the grey 807, followed closely by Eva?
Then who was next, no pictures or mention who was in between-I need to keep track!
Congrats on the speedy arrival of 613's boy.


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08 Oct 2018 09:28 #542686 by Ruth

#3 was the cutie with the eyelashes. Born to hypotrichosis Endberly 700.

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08 Oct 2018 09:48 #542688 by Sue

Thankyou!


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09 Oct 2018 14:49 #542709 by Ruth

Today's eyelashes weren't dry when I took a photo, so I'll wait to have a proper look at her: to Jet 777, what must be a tiny heifer, since I saw her head out and then went over to the paddock and she'd gone all the way back in. Haven't seen that happen before. Jet wouldn't get on with it with me watching. I have concluded that they remember a previous year's interference (help, but they don't see it that way) and don't want me anywhere they can see me the next time. This was her third, our second Harry calf.

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10 Oct 2018 09:08 #542719 by Kilmoon

Sue and Ruth, you both breed gorgeous calves. I have to ask though, is their hair as soft as it looks in the photos?

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10 Oct 2018 09:51 #542720 by Ruth

Little calves are silky on their faces, in particular. They're absolutely delicious to stroke, if they'll let you, which is why I'm enjoying these ones so much: they're staying quiet. Usually mine are quite stand-offish but with the two bulls I've primarily used, they don't seem to have that inclination.

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12 Oct 2018 18:23 #542764 by Ruth

Getting tired now ...
Yesterday afternoon Zella the housecow calved, a bull. Then last evening two in labour, one, my favourite 3yo, pedigree, had a bull just after 10pm, the other seemed not to be really in active labour then, so I went back out at 2.10am, found her presenting a couple of nice feet in a bag, then promptly a nose, then the whole calf was born ten minutes later: the last calf, a heifer, for our lovely old bull. Hopefully she'll grow into a heifer I want to keep.
Shortly we'll go out and milk Zella for the first time, keep all that lovely colostrum in case someone else needs it during the rest of calving.

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12 Oct 2018 19:45 #542765 by Sue

Good to hear three more successful arrivals-hope you have a quiet night!


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13 Oct 2018 10:34 #542772 by Stikkibeek

Some eyelashes


And how about the hairdo!




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13 Oct 2018 11:33 #542773 by Sue

Has anyone questioned why your topic is titled "Calving 2019" Ruth? ;-)
I just had to check the title of my calving thread, then went back to yours and thought, hang on a minute, aren't we still in 2018-had to check the date on the computer!!!


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13 Oct 2018 12:07 #542774 by Ruth

Only you, Sue. :-D Obviously excitement, exhaustion, or both, were already exerting their influence!

There's a new calf, as of a couple of hours ago, born to a cow who for her three calvings before today's, gave birth on day 273. I was expecting her to calve yesterday. I think it's a heifer, but they're looking warily at me whenever I pass, so I'll let them be for a while. It's jolly blustery here, which will be unsettling everyone.

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13 Oct 2018 12:36 #542776 by Sue

Ha ha, one of us is going to have to change our heading-or shall we just leave it and keep everyone guessing?!
Glad to hear you have another 'normal' arrival!


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13 Oct 2018 12:43 #542778 by Ruth

I don't think I've ever watched her calve. This morning I was busy with visitors but Ella watched her for me, from the house, one paddock across. She (Ella, 16, regular resident) has been avidly reading the "Essential Guide to Calving", so was pleased to watch another birth in progress, on my behalf.

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